A well-educated populace is the bedrock of a healthy democracy and a strong economy.

Learning how to accurately reason is not innate, it is a skill that must be taught. It is a skill that benefits not only the self, but also the nation. A well-educated populace is less likely to vote for demagogues appealing to the basest emotions and more like to want community and civic leaders that work to improve society. Educated people are less likely to continue generational strife, poverty and tribalism.

Anti-intellectualism is a poison dragging down people and ensuring hardship and suffering. Note that "you chose to take out a loan and now you have to pay it back" is a backhanded form of anti-intellectualism. No, people did not have a choice. The choice was to go along with a predatory system intended to leech off people or not get an education at all. That is a false choice. It is always better to be educated. It is always better to uplift yourself and your community.

Why should society fund an educated citizenry? Because we should all want to uplift each other and ensure a better tomorrow.

Opposing people being able to uplift themselves and their communities for the betterment of all is monstrous.

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Meanwhile, my loans have a new administrator. Selling my debt around.

This is why they talk about increasing the voting age. They’re so far underwater with younger voters.

This is the sort of shit that Republicans do and then they cry about how young people won't vote for them.

Republicans aren’t worth their weight in dandruff. May they all rot in hell

The Republicans have made it clear time and time again what they are really all about: policies that primarily benefit the wealthy and undermining our system of government to increase their power. Yet millions and millions of people continue to vote for them. I’m not saying Democrats are angels (far from it), but if you think the real enemies of America are Target and people with student loan debt, I won’t be able to have a conversation with you because I will be at a loss for words.

Aren't they always screaming take care of America first? That's what this is

Democrats: Want to forgive up to 20k of student debt.

Republicans: Want to cancel any attempt to cancel student loan debt, offer no way of fixing student loan debt, and want to charge you thousand upon thousands of unpaid interest.

40 million Americans with Student Loan debt and this is their play.

Does anyone know what kind of direct correspondence people with fed loans got?

Because like if borrowers had receipts from a private lender telling them in writing “we decided that you owe $10k less now”, then months later telling them “actually nvm we changed our minds, also btw you now owe interest on that $10k we said you didn’t have to pay back”, it’d seem like a pretty open and shut case in favor of the borrowers

But I’m also an idiot, so what do I know

I’ve never been so motivated as I am now to register voters. We need to start preparing to get people to the polls now.

The evilness and unrelenting lack of humanity is all I think when I hear the word ‘Republican’. Late stage republicanism will be compared to fascist Italy, nazi germany and communist Russia in the real history books…

…and then checked out by 11a on a Thursday for a long holiday weekend. Anybody else gotta work all weekend for pennies while these chucklefucks put in a half days work for a months pay?

Republicans trying their hardest to make everyday people miserable all the while blaming democrats. The democrats have got to get better at messaging because the “truth” is somewhat meaningless to the dumb portion of swing voters who would blame a president for tornadoes existing.

They hate any college student because they think they are all woke. They have their loans forgiven and voted themselves raises. Then they come out and say, "who doesn't pay their loans? Only 13% of people have student loans. Why should the rest of us pay for it?" We pay their salaries, medical, flights, and retirement against our will. Why should we pay for all that? We shouldn't!!!

Luckily, as student loan debt holders, we are used to being fucked. 🤷🏻‍♀️

It’s almost like they’re taking orders from the corporate overlords

"Dear young adults. We hate you. Get bent. You know what, you owe me $20!"

20 mins later

"Huh... Why dont young adults vote for us?? Must be communism"

That’s a really good way to ensure every single college student with debt votes blue.

Do they want to lose in 2024?? It really seems like it…

How the fuck is anyone under 40 voting for these people. HOW.

Fuck republicans. America is a shithole. This is the county they want.

I dont give a fuck if its for city chief landscaper....I will never even consider voting ANYTHING republican for the rest of my fucking life. I hope this is what their plan was.

Cool. Let's reverse all of that PPP loan forgiveness then? With retroactive interest?

Being against forgiveness is one thing, but to retroactively charge interest on paused payments is, well, just cruel.

Retroactive interest. Fuck. Forget that house. Or kids. Jesus. All because we got a damn education.

Can someone explain to me exactly what charging retroactive interest would solve? Gtfo

I finally paid off my student loans at 39, about a year before they announced the student loan forgiveness. People asked me if I felt cheated by not getting it and I was just happy for the people who did. I was paying almost $800 bucks a month and I know how hard it was for me. So knowing people would get some relief from that was all good for me.... you know.. because I actually care about other people and their problems. That's why I went into healthcare to help people.

Fuck these GOp clowns.

They really hate people getting educated. This is something, even for them.

I hate these people. I wish terrible things for them

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Some of them that voted even had their own loans forgiven...

Republicans will literally do anything before just.. helping people not suffer. Higher wages? No! Let’s make child labor a thing again instead! Student debt forgiveness? Of course not! Not like your next generation having wealth is like good for the economy or anything. Company profits don’t mean shit if nobody has any purchasing power. The country with the most guns has the most mass shootings? Well obviously those things aren’t related… let’s fuck with trans people instead

Not paying mine until all the PPP loans are paid back and all the other bailouts our taxes paid for :).

Republicans really just be the anti learning committee

What, are they worried the debt ceiling will pass and they’d have to come up with another way to ruin the economy?

Vote them out

Let’s retroactively charge taxes back to 2000 rates for the ultra rich, with interest.

Retroactive interest sounds illegal in this case. Will not pay.

Never let some dipshit on reddit or twitter or anywhere tell you dems and republicans are the same. Dems aren't great but they are infinitely preferred over the hellhole we would be living in if republicans were able to do whatever they wanted. This is a life changing decision for millions of people in this country, the debt cancellation will be an enormous boost in young adults chances of obtaining a better living for themselves and their potential families. Republicans are actively trying to take this away from us, these parties are not the same no matter how disappointing dems may be.

I think the retroactive interest part should be illegal.

Republicans trying their hardest to never win an election ever again. Only thing that will save them is a massive economic meltdown worse than 08....oh hmmmmmmm, debt ceiling crisis incoming. Big surprise.

It’s like republicans are constantly coming up with new ways to make everyone hate them. But somehow there are enough stupid fucks to repeatedly vote against their own interests that they keep getting elected. Our collective IQ as a country is at an all time low.

That's one way to wake up young voters.

"Vote for us or Republicans are going to steal a ton of money from you."

They want to discourage poor people from going to college, because the educated are harder to manipulate.

At this point I’ve forgiven myself for the debt as I was mislead and forced into a corner in order to go to school with the promise of a better future. Until reform happens they won’t see a dime from me.

Meanwhile they don’t want to pay their own government debt while taking millions of Covid loans

that’s ok tho… I wanna give Billionaires more tax breaks

LOL. All the more reason to continue to pay the bare minimum until my 25 years are up.

Just a completely morally bankrupt party. I’d be ashamed to vote Republican these days.

the same clowns that took $100,000 - $1M+ each in covid relief loans and then had them forgiven. meaning you guys all paid for it with your taxes. VOTE BLUE

I don't understand the play here.

Even if you're against waiving the debt, this is just going to piss off a HUGE chunk of voters