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TurnkeyLurker

2.4k points

7 days ago

UPDATE: Reggie's bar has liquor license suspended after death of Madison Brooks

DartTheDragoon

981 points

7 days ago

They'll be back. It's not their first rodeo. They will pay some fines and follow so newly imposed rules but nothing fundamentally will change.

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551 points

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Yobanyyo

312 points

7 days ago

Yobanyyo

312 points

7 days ago

Their owners need to be dragged into court as well.

Jamalginsbergback[S]

11 points

7 days ago

the state needs to be, reggie's has had countless fines for underage drinking, fights/assaults, DUIs from its customers, ect.

i am no pearl clutcher about underage drinking, hell i think it should be moved to 18 but reggie's was well known for serving underage drinking and was able to operate for 2 decades without ATC doing anything

radioref

175 points

7 days ago

radioref

175 points

7 days ago

They’ll change their name back to “The Tiger” and rinse and repeat. The is Louisiana for Christ sakes.

GeauxTri

51 points

7 days ago

GeauxTri

51 points

7 days ago

They will come full circle & rename it Sports Illustrated.

lumpy4square

2.5k points

8 days ago

lumpy4square

2.5k points

8 days ago

Her poor parents. I don’t know if I could live knowing my child died in such a way, or anyway actually, but this is horrific.

WorfsFlamingAnus

994 points

8 days ago

Totally agree. They are victims here too. If it were my daughter, my current life would effectively be over. The only thing that would keep me from offing myself is my other kid.

Chiggadup

265 points

7 days ago

Chiggadup

265 points

7 days ago

My god. I had a whole thing typed out, but won’t even speculate about my own kids.

Suffice to say. I hope their response is stronger and less violent than mine would be.

Baylifornia

454 points

7 days ago

Baylifornia

454 points

7 days ago

I'd have to take the rapists with me.

BlazeKnaveII

124 points

7 days ago*

Why don't we hear about more vengeance from broken parents? I know how I'd spend my free time

edit in case I sound like some r/iamverybadass dbag:

I have no idea what it must feel like to go through what these parents go through. I'm just saying, I'm shocked you don't hear about them losing their shit and getting revenge. I just picture them having all the time in the world and devolving and spiraling. Like where would you go from there?

branchoflight

95 points

7 days ago

I have to imagine because the bloodlust people have in hypotheticals is pretty hard to act on when you have so many other things to concern yourself with after losing a child.

SimilarYellow

37 points

7 days ago

Near me a girl recently got murdered by two boys under the age of 14 and my mom said she'd just run them both over with her car and turn herself in. If you're under 14 and murder someone, you're not going to become a productive member of society anyway.

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258 points

7 days ago

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258 points

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TooManyPoisons

207 points

7 days ago

With her BAC, at least it was unlikely she was conscious until her end. Hopefully. God what a tragedy.

IrrationalPanda55782

196 points

7 days ago

.319 is SO high. .4 is generally comatose, and .5 is dead. I had a friend in college hospitalized at .25!!

This bar is absolutely responsible if that’s the last place she drank.

reddit_ronin

156 points

7 days ago

I would rage. You’d have to put me down.

I couldn’t live with this.

guitarguy1685

77 points

7 days ago

If she was my only child, I don't know that I'd be able to keep myself from trying to exact revenge.

dryfire

15 points

7 days ago

dryfire

15 points

7 days ago

Go full Law Abiding Citizen.

sarcasticdick82

353 points

7 days ago

.319 and the lawyer said she was able to consent? I disagree

jjameson2000

14 points

7 days ago

I’d be surprised if someone with a .319 BAC was even able to form a coherent word.

hdiggyh

3.1k points

8 days ago

hdiggyh

3.1k points

8 days ago

Jesus that’s a horrible story

ADHD_orc

1.7k points

7 days ago

ADHD_orc

1.7k points

7 days ago

Not a lawyer but I don't know why these kids aren't getting hit with some kind of homicide or manslaughter charge also. Dropping someone in the middle of the road who is borderline comatose sounds like negligent homicide to me. The whole story is so horrific.

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740 points

7 days ago

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Megamedium

395 points

7 days ago*

Megamedium

395 points

7 days ago*

Yeah, I’m the furthest thing from an expert of the law, and certainly not in Louisiana’s specifically, but I feel I’ve definitely seen people get felony murder charges for a lot less (in terms of directly causing one’s death).

Assaulting a girl and then dumping her on the road that drunk, don’t think you could try any harder to indirectly kill someone.

TheyCallMeStone

164 points

7 days ago

They may even try to pin kidnapping on them if she was too drunk to consent to anything. And I have to imagine dropping somebody off somewhere is part of that act.

Hizjyayvu

11k points

8 days ago

Hizjyayvu

11k points

8 days ago

Poor kid. What a terrible way to go. Rip.

Sucksessful

4.5k points

8 days ago

Sucksessful

4.5k points

8 days ago

I can’t imagine how the parents feel, that’s a helluva heartbreaking phone call to receive

USS_Hornet

824 points

7 days ago

USS_Hornet

824 points

7 days ago

This has happened a lot at LSU, a lot more than at other campuses. They've had serial rapists there that took years to catch. One was a Sheriffs deputy in charge of the anti-rape team (no shit).

If I was the parent of a female I'd think twice about letting her go to LSU.

Sucksessful

131 points

7 days ago

Sucksessful

131 points

7 days ago

that’s terrifying

Fuzakenaideyo

14 points

7 days ago

Hiding in plain sight

USS_Hornet

33 points

7 days ago

Creep was even engaged to the school or hospital’s rape counselor.

Kalendiane

15 points

7 days ago

Good lord.

moby323

3.4k points

7 days ago

moby323

3.4k points

7 days ago

Then to learn that her last moments alive were a brutal gang rape.

I don’t know how I could possibly go on after that.

It’s just too much.

MsFrenchieFry

1.1k points

7 days ago

I know it is terrible to say but I hope with her BAC being that high she wasn’t aware of what was really going on. I honestly hope she was not conscious for those last terrible hours of her life. Poor girl.

How the hell were people as young as 17 at a bar drinking. How could her friends leave her, how could other people at the bar fail to see how drunk she was and let her leave with four random guys. So many people let her down.

EmmyNoetherRing

1.9k points

7 days ago*

How could the rapists parents raise boys who thought that was ok.

It’s not like she got attacked by wolves when she was out late in the woods— Her rapists were people just like the people at the bar. Which parents raised their sons to be monsters?

rebamericana

1.1k points

7 days ago

rebamericana

1.1k points

7 days ago

Thank you!!! Rape only happens because of the people who decide to rape.

Scrimshawmud

388 points

7 days ago

A few years back a local teen was murdered with a gun when she tried breaking up with her boyfriend. The grandfather of the boy had his guns locked, but the young man knew how to get to them…so they weren’t secured. Somehow that young man grew up to believe the response to a breakup was to take her for a drive and shoot her in the back of the head. She was 18. It stays with me because I am raising a son in this state and it appalls me that we don’t hold people accountable. The gun owner? Not charged though hit grandson was able to obtain his gun and murder a young woman with it. If the grandfather had meth in the house and the grandson had used that to kill her, you can bet he’d face charges. Reading the back story, you see the common male possessiveness of a female, and murderous fury when he doesn’t get his way.

Sonyguyus

125 points

7 days ago

Sonyguyus

125 points

7 days ago

For a second I thought you were referring to a similar murder that happened in my town. It’s sad that your story matched one from my town. Why must we as a species do this to each other??

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969 points

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w04a

210 points

7 days ago

w04a

210 points

7 days ago

Someone better. These guys are going to get slapped on the wrist because "it'll ruin their future" Even though they never once thought of hers. Hope I'm wrong but the justice system never works for cases like this usually.

dreamcicle11

10 points

7 days ago

I’m usually not pro vigilante actions. However, if I wanted to die anyway because of what these shitbags did to my daughter and especially if I didn’t have any other kids, I would likely go ahead and make them pay. Take out a second mortgage if you have to. There are people or one might do it themselves.

AppORKER

617 points

7 days ago

AppORKER

617 points

7 days ago

And then hearing : "This was a tragedy, but not a crime" - The sacks of shit lawyer

I get it that lawyers need to be unbiased but fuck.

d0ctorzaius

471 points

7 days ago

d0ctorzaius

471 points

7 days ago

Lawyers don't need to be unbiased, they're specifically supposed to be biased in favor of their clients.

tquinn04

25 points

7 days ago

tquinn04

25 points

7 days ago

So many people failed this girl that night.

RustyOP

257 points

7 days ago

RustyOP

257 points

7 days ago

Absolutely Horrific, im still terrified just by reading the headlines , Poor Girl

moarcheezpleez

4.3k points

8 days ago

Did they catch the driver who hit her or was it a hit and run?

anglerfishtacos

4k points

7 days ago

It wasn’t a hit-and-run. They knew the driver right away. He wasn’t intoxicated and he was driving a rideshare. That strip of road that he was driving on is so dark and has zero street lights. It is sad to say, but it doesn’t surprise me that he didn’t see her until it was too late.

chickpeaze

253 points

7 days ago

chickpeaze

253 points

7 days ago

Do we even know if she was walking? If she was unconscious on the road there's pretty much no way to see her fast enough. Poor woman and poor driver.

PossumCock

1.4k points

7 days ago

PossumCock

1.4k points

7 days ago

It wasn't clear in the article but I wonder if they had dumped her in the middle of the road, would make sense someone would have a hard time seeing someone like that

MisterB78

756 points

7 days ago

MisterB78

756 points

7 days ago

The article said they weren’t planning on charging them with her death, so it’s safe to guess they didn’t leave her in the road

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574 points

7 days ago

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Capitan_Failure

427 points

7 days ago*

She left the bar in a car with 4 guys. 2 in front and 2 in the back.

The driver of the car stated that one of the 2 guys in back started having sex with her and he told them to stop, then after the rape finished (its not clear if one or both guys in the back had sex with her) they followed the girls directions to her home but she couldnt find it so they dropped her off as close as they could.

Thats the only testimony released so far from the driver of the rape car, not the uber that hit her.

Edit: Added a bit of context.

lala__

146 points

7 days ago

lala__

146 points

7 days ago

Vile human beings. She couldn’t find her home so they just left her?

magobblie

147 points

7 days ago

magobblie

147 points

7 days ago

I'm guessing she was unconscious because she had alcohol poisoning. They probably didn't want her to die in their car, so they dumped her in the road. I believe there is more malice to this story than is being let on.

Arconyte

265 points

7 days ago

Arconyte

265 points

7 days ago

They shouldn't have dumped her in a random suburb either. I'm not sure about her driver, but the dudes in the back are some sick, desperate fucks. She couldn't even give her address, let alone consent.

Environmental-Joke19

79 points

7 days ago

It can be hard to see even if it's well lit. I once almost ran someone over on a well lit street at night. They had just been struck by a car from the oncoming lane. I honestly thought it was a bag of trash when I came up.

Suyefuji

50 points

7 days ago

Suyefuji

50 points

7 days ago

I had one recently where I was crossing a fresh yellow on an intersection in an area where the speed limit is 50mph. It was dark and raining and I was halfway through the intersection when I suddenly saw a person in dark clothing in the crosswalk right in front of me. Fortunately, he jerked one way and the driver jerked the other and we missed him by like 6 inches but I spent the rest of the night shocked at how close I was to watching a person die and there was fuck-all I could do.

Afloatcactus5

173 points

7 days ago

I've had 3 close calls with people riding bycicles at night with no lights or anything wearing dark clothes. People have no idea how much they blend into the backround or get washed out by someone else's headlights.

Uglynora

90 points

7 days ago

Uglynora

90 points

7 days ago

She was hit in the middle of the road by an Uber Driver who stayed on scene and thankfully wasn't impaired.

the_kevlar_kid

1.8k points

8 days ago

That's what I'm unclear about too. It seems like you need a whole another article to figure out how she died and what's going on with that part?

moarcheezpleez

3.2k points

8 days ago*

Right? They act like that wasn’t even relevant but that’s like a whole other crime. I’m glad they arrested the rapists but what’s going on with that?

Edit- I just found this story. I’ve never heard of this source but it has more details: https://unfilteredwithkiran.com/madison-brooks-death-arrest

Brooks died after being hit by a vehicle on Burbank Drive at Pelican Lakes Parkway on January 15th. The East Baton Rouge Sheriff’s Office said Brooks was hit around 3 a.m. The driver who hit Brooks remained on scene and was not found at fault and was not impaired.

Shopworn_Soul

5.5k points

8 days ago

So the only person in this story who willingly did a single decent thing is the poor soul who has to live with actually killing her.

What a wonderful world we live in.

jakeblew2

837 points

7 days ago*

jakeblew2

837 points

7 days ago*

Thanks for clarifying this. I was under the impression they had run her over to cover it up, initially. Man this is all so messed up

Edit: alcohol poisoning is no joke btw. If you see someone breathing funny and flopping drunk *do not* put them to bed they can suffocate. I would take them to a hospital

Bryancreates

45 points

7 days ago

I’ve def had alcohol poisoning because of my own poor choices as an adult, it’s way different than being hungover or just super drunk. My friend and her roommate in college went to a frat party in their freshman year. Both were petite, 100lb-ish 5’ 3”-5”. They both got wasted, but the roommate especially. Like, they had to call an ambulance drunk. The roommate didn’t have insurance, so it was the ambulance fee on top of even more thousands of dollars for the hospital visit. First week of college. I’m pretty sure she had left the school by second semester.

moarcheezpleez

966 points

8 days ago

Wow. Hard to believe that they’re actually the best person in this whole scenario.

Appropriate_Tip_8852

211 points

7 days ago

Yeah I never would have guessed. From the headline you think it was the rapist covering tracks.

Jackers83

81 points

8 days ago

Jackers83

81 points

8 days ago

God that’s awful. At least they stayed at the scene.

hochizo

508 points

8 days ago

hochizo

508 points

8 days ago

never heard of this source

I personally know Kiran. She was a long-time investigative reporter at WAFB in Baton Rouge (the CBS station there). She parted ways with them when she wanted to continue an investigation that they wanted her to drop. So she started her own organization. I don't know this specific reporter personally, but I know her organization is a legit news operation.

hwaetsup

122 points

7 days ago

hwaetsup

122 points

7 days ago

Came here to give her the same credibility. Love Kiran.

robertmondavi_jr

22 points

7 days ago

what kind of investigation did they want her to drop?

K8obergyn_1

14 points

7 days ago

Maybe she’s looking into the whole shitshow that is the 19th Judicial District, the Dept Children & Family Svcs, and how kids ‘in their care’ keep dying, the laziness of the Baton Rouge Police and how nothing ever works the way it should in that particular world. There’s a lot to investigate, but only money talks - and is heard - in those halls.

moarcheezpleez

56 points

7 days ago

Thanks for the intel! Sounds legit

Nt5x5

224 points

7 days ago

Nt5x5

224 points

7 days ago

It's worth noting that this isn't just a road, it's a major 4-5 lane highway with a speed limit of 55 or 65. It's definitely not a "hey let me be careful in case there are pedestrians" stretch of roadway. So its a little more understandable they're not holding the driver at fault.

johnny_cash_money

106 points

8 days ago

This reads like a Special Victims Unit episode opener.

Intelligent-Price-39

391 points

8 days ago

Yes but he or she is innocent, no alcohol or drugs in their system, accidentally hit her

LittleKitty235

551 points

8 days ago

Yup. To not be charged with anything after hitting a killing a pedestrian you pretty much had to have been doing everything right as a driver. Not just not DWI, but not speeding, on the phone, etc. I feel pretty bad for them knowing they have the guilt of killing this girl after what happened to her.

Intelligent-Price-39

303 points

8 days ago

Yes the driver wasn’t at fault and they were tested for alcohol & drugs and were cleared..but they must feel terrible….awful story, heartless scumbags..hope they all get life

Pinklady777

81 points

7 days ago

Ughhh! Heartbreaking all around. My grandfather hit a pedestrian that just stepped out in front of him on a dark night. It was not a high speed road. She was injured and hospitalized and even fined for jaywalking or something. He was so rattled even though he was found not at fault and she survived, he was really torn up about it. I can't imagine accidentally killing someone this way.

Jamalginsbergback[S]

181 points

8 days ago

it is very dark where she got hit. Not long ago was pretty wooded "country"

Not somewhere you expect to see someone walking a 3 am

kozmo1313

384 points

8 days ago

kozmo1313

384 points

8 days ago

he was a sober uber driver on a pitch-dark road with a 55mph speed limit... his life is probably ruined too.

mdgraller

353 points

8 days ago

mdgraller

353 points

8 days ago

Well, not legally. But emotionally, no doubt.

kozmo1313

294 points

7 days ago

kozmo1313

294 points

7 days ago

i would be broken. he did CPR on her until the police arrived.

tokyo_engineer_dad

170 points

7 days ago

He’s not related to the people arrested.

Basic gist: she went to a bar and was drinking a lot, she left with a 17-year-old and his friends and they drove her out to a road where the 17-year-old and a 18-year-old in their group raped her. She had told them she can’t find her friends and was too drunk and for them to take her home before they raped her. They couldn’t figure out where she lived so they left her in a very dark subdivision of the area they had raped her and left.

A while later a ride share driver hit her when he couldn’t see her. I assume she was walking in the road and there were inadequate street lights and possibly no sidewalk.

The four arrested are: the 17 and 18 year olds who raped her, the two who were in the front row of the car she was in when she was raped.

The driver/front passenger of the car that she was raped in, apparently gave them the information to fill in what happened after the bar: him and the other front row passenger didn’t rape her and were uncomfortable with what was happening. However they didn’t stop it so they’re also arrested.

Her alcohol blood level was over .31% which is apparently enough for alcohol poisoning.

Nt5x5

60 points

7 days ago

Nt5x5

60 points

7 days ago

I mentioned in another comment, but the stretch of burbank drive she was hit on isn't a street, its a full on divided 4 lane highway, with a speed limit of 55 that most people treat more like 65 mph. It's definitely not a stretch of road you would even think to look for pedestrians on.

So to your point: I don't think there are street lights and definitely no sidewalk.

Hoboken07030

34 points

7 days ago

Another article I had read said that the driver who hit her stopped and waited for the police and showed no signs of impairment. It also stated she was in the middle of the street on a dark part of the road and the driver couldn't see her.

all_of_the_lightss

261 points

7 days ago

Driver was not arrested and did not flee.

19 year old girl was assaulted and killed by a 17 year old and 3 other college kids she was at a bar with.

The bar will be shut down. They recorded something on cell video and that will likely get everyone except the 17 year old decades in prison

Scharmberg

165 points

7 days ago

Scharmberg

165 points

7 days ago

Couldn’t the 17 year old be treated as an adult by the court for this?

fhota1

123 points

7 days ago

fhota1

123 points

7 days ago

Very likely will be yes.

passionatepumpkin

46 points

7 days ago

The article doesn’t say anything about the other three being apart of the college. One of them was 28. And the bar has already had its liquor license suspended.

TheSnydaMan

167 points

7 days ago

TheSnydaMan

167 points

7 days ago

One of the "college kids" was 28 btw.

AshKalashnikov

60 points

7 days ago

There is so much wrong with everything that happened in this story. Tragic for her and her family.

Donating her heart and kidneys after her death is the only beautiful thing that came from this. Bless her and her family for arranging that.

Signiference

3.8k points

8 days ago

Signiference

3.8k points

8 days ago

That Reggie’s place needs to be immediately shut down, too. Letting anyone get to a 0.319 BAC, let alone a 19 year old…

PopTartsNHam

1.2k points

8 days ago

PopTartsNHam

1.2k points

8 days ago

Where she met a 17 year old who was also drinking there, and would later rape her. Wtf

luckycharms7999

318 points

7 days ago

I grew up in Louisiana. Unfortunately this tracks with the kind of dump the state is.

malphonso

85 points

7 days ago

malphonso

85 points

7 days ago

Especially Tigerland. I lived in that area for 10 years. SWAT raided the 14 unit apartment complex 3 times while I lived there.

Quadtr0polis

1.5k points

8 days ago

Quadtr0polis

1.5k points

8 days ago

It's known as the freshman bar where they can go to get fucked up. As long as you are 18 you can get in. It is the shittiest bar in Tigerland and always has been. It was actually shut down a few years ago because of an underage drinking sting.

Tigerland is just an awful place in general. Frequent murders and shootings. Kidnappings are not uncommon and LSU students just can't stay away from it. Good things don't happen in Tigerland

Plasticjesus504

480 points

8 days ago

It really is a blight on the community and I used to go there all the time. Dumb and young. I have seen some of the worst fights I have ever seen in my life at Reggie’s and I grew up in New Orleans going out. I watched a dude get straight stabbed in the parking lot as a freshman.

pyronius

167 points

7 days ago

pyronius

167 points

7 days ago

I knew a guy who tried to calm a fight there. He ended having literally all of his teeth kicked out and his skull and jaw fractured. Had to have loads of reconstructive surgery.

Plasticjesus504

110 points

7 days ago

Yeah, man unfortunately it’s pretty common place. I think many ppl would be surprised if they walked by there at 12:30/1am. Most parents would be Fucking appalled lol. It’s dystopian and disturbing now that I have grown up and looked back.

My_G_Alt

18 points

7 days ago

My_G_Alt

18 points

7 days ago

Damn I’d watch a documentary on this place

anglerfishtacos

156 points

7 days ago

They can’t stay away because it is large, and they let pretty much anyone drink. When all the high school kids come up for spring testing, they all go to Reggie’s. And gross college guys go there that week specifically to try and pick up high schooler senior girls.

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118 points

7 days ago

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pistolbob

94 points

8 days ago

pistolbob

94 points

8 days ago

I used to live in tigerland, what an awful place lol

nellbones

29 points

7 days ago

nellbones

29 points

7 days ago

even living near tigerland is sketchy, i was in a pretty secure building and it was enough to give me pause when they had a wild night

pistolbob

10 points

7 days ago

pistolbob

10 points

7 days ago

My buddy lived in the sharlo/brightside townhomes and was robbed at gunpoint under his carport, the whole area is a blight

LSU2007

18 points

7 days ago

LSU2007

18 points

7 days ago

Same, in those apartments behind what’s now “the house”. Wasn’t terrible when I was there but it’s gotten awful in the past 15 years or so.

pistolbob

11 points

7 days ago

pistolbob

11 points

7 days ago

Ah yes, the illustrious tiger plaza, I lived in a smaller complex down the street owned by the same company, good times lol

bryanhealey

582 points

7 days ago

bryanhealey

582 points

7 days ago

I kinda didn't know what a 0.319 meant, so looked it up, and...

holy shit! that's near to as high as you can get before needing medical intervention to survive.

rawwwse

334 points

7 days ago

rawwwse

334 points

7 days ago

Really depends on the “experience” of your liver, but yeah… .319 is INSANELY high for us normals.

I’ve seen bums as high as .5ish yelling/spitting and fighting paramedics and nurses. Some people live their lives at a—near—constant state of .319 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

HEBushido

143 points

7 days ago

HEBushido

143 points

7 days ago

That's called riding the slot Randy

dickintheass

44 points

7 days ago

I use the liqueur to fine tune my liquor levels

Yankee_Jane

40 points

7 days ago

Highest I have seen is 0.501 and he was slurring his speech a little bit but otherwise A&OX4, chatting with the nurses and doctors, walked independently to the bathroom in a more or less straight line... He was an Olympic Gold Medalist of alcoholism. Aged 38 at the time iirc.

torsed_bosons

19 points

7 days ago

I saw a mid-40s lady with a professional degree in the ED who wanted to detox. Had a nice conversation with her during her intake, she was pleasant, quiet, articulate. I figured she had stopped drinking a day or two earlier until I got her blood alcohol back and it was 0.35! She was a serious alcoholic, I would've been knee-walking or face down at that level.

oneeighthirish

50 points

7 days ago*

My grandad had a bac about that high when he went to the hospital one time. He had fallen down in the parking lot at his bar, broke two ribs and punctured a lung. Dude was helped back into his car, drove home, smoked, and then my grandma took him to the hospital. There he had a blood test that clocked him at .323 iirc.

My grandad also survived cancer 4 times. What took him down was mixing pain meds from his last cancer surgery with liquor and frying out his (to that point somehow fairly intact) mind. Idk what lesson there is in all of this beyond the fact that ole Don was made of sterner stuff than most of us.

JWGhetto

136 points

7 days ago*

JWGhetto

136 points

7 days ago*

0.4 BAC is considered a "LD50" dose, or the amount where an adult has a 50% chance of death by alcohol poisoning, knowing nothing else about their health.

There are many cases where death occurred at much lower concentrations, and also at higher concentration. Suffice it to say, the car was not her only threat to her life that night

A7XfoREVer15

554 points

8 days ago

Dude I used to go to LSU and let me tell you what, fuck Reggie’s.

I’ve heard nothing but bad things there. It seems like Reggie’s and Mike’s practically turn a blind eye to this shit. Hell I straight up saw a staff member of Mike’s try to slip something into one of my friends drinks. Reggie’s will straight up let fucking teenage girls in.

I honestly wouldn’t recommend ANY girl go to tiger alley unless she’s got a good and TRUSTWORTHY friend group of other girls.

TheDrunkScientist

56 points

7 days ago

Many moons ago, my HS friends and I would hit up Tigerland on Thursdays. This was while we were seniors in HS. A few years later my cousin was doing the same thing.

If you’re a female and relatively attractive, it doesn’t matter how old you are. They will let you in.

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77 points

7 days ago

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77 points

7 days ago

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gbejrlsu

23 points

7 days ago

gbejrlsu

23 points

7 days ago

In Louisiana 18+ are good to enter bars. They can't drink at those bars, but they can still get in. No one can say with a straight face that those places aren't aware that the 18-20yo patrons are drinking in there though. As long as no one does anything criminal or stupid ATC typically turns a blind eye.

Mama_cheese

247 points

7 days ago

Mama_cheese

247 points

7 days ago

This is what absolutely pisses me off that I don't think has been addressed. This girl was 19 and in a sorority, so presumably she's been in at least a year, known these other friends at least 9 months, possibly a year and 9 months (it's been a long time since I was at LSU, but from what I remember, Greeks partied with other Greeks). And these bitches

  1. Let her get this shitfaced
  2. Were MIA when she was stumbling around that wasted
  3. Bailed on her since she couldn't find them
  4. Let her leave with 4 dudes (when has that worked out for anyone?)

I don't put all the blame on these girls, these thugs deserve everything the law can throw at them, but with friends like these, who needs enemies?

When I was there, there was an alcohol poisoning in a fraternity as well-- he was 17 I think. Lots of people were pissed at these "brothers" who didn't clear his airway, sit him upright etc.

Those poor parents... They sent her to Baton Rouge, likely supported her in pledging bc they thought, safety in numbers... Then this.

Informal-Soil9475

157 points

7 days ago

The story too gets into this. They all have kind things to say about how she was a hero and a kind soul and a great friend. But they all abandoned her at the bar to be harassed and kidnapped by three men, one of which was 10 years older than her.

This isnt just an isolated incident of three evil men. Its the whole system and culture around this that let that happen.

scootah

43 points

7 days ago

scootah

43 points

7 days ago

“Let her leave with 4 dudes (when has that worked out for anyone?)”

When I was young and an asshole I used to drink with a group of dudes. On several occasions that know of, some girl we met at the bar or the club was obliterated drunk - so we got her safely back home without fucking raping her or hurting her.

That was twenty years ago and holy shit I never considered it remarkable, surprising or unlikely in any way. Only a complete piece of shit would take advantage of a drunk girl even if she was acting like she wanted one of us. Our group rule was leave her your number (don’t accept here if she’s wasted) and she’ll call when she’s sober if she wants to hook up.

I’m not close with those guys anymore. Haven’t talked in years. But I don’t think any of them ever even seriously thought about touching a wasted girl inappropriately. The creepiest thing any of us ever did was what when someone wanted to accept a drunk girl giving him her number.

Four dudes can get drunk together and not turn into monsters. No passes for assholes who hurt women in groups. Leaving a bar with four friendly dudes should be as safe as leaving a bar with anyone else. If you stumble into predators - that’s on the predators not the victims.

ubioandmph

90 points

8 days ago

0.319?! Holy shit that is incredibly high

Jesykapie

698 points

8 days ago

Jesykapie

698 points

8 days ago

I’m from a town with a notorious party school. There are so many bars down town, like SO many. I was a bartender from ~2004-2010. We had many crazy nights, especially after football games. What we didn’t have was tons of underage drinking in those bars. It is my best guess that prevention was due to local business codes and a very active police force. Police would often come in plainclothes with an underage guest and try to coerce you into serving the person with the fake ID or no ID. It happened to me more than once and the cop was always really pushy like “C’mon, just serve my ‘GF’ a drink, I swear she’s over 21”, shit like that. We would always complain that this tactic felt a little too much like entrapment. Another thing that kept us from serving underage was the fact that you could go to jail for serving someone alcohol who later went on to get a DUI, in a wreck, cause a crash, etc. I was always wary of over-serving or accepting a fake ID because the repercussions would be massive.

caribouslack

247 points

7 days ago*

The drinking culture at big state schools is out of control. It’s a shit show every weekend. Frats are the worst.

Jesykapie

85 points

7 days ago

Jesykapie

85 points

7 days ago

The school I’m talking about is in the SEC. The drinking culture is part of the reason I moved away in 2011.

Jesykapie

195 points

8 days ago

Jesykapie

195 points

8 days ago

If you served the underaged person who was with the plainclothes cop, you would IMMEDIATELY get like thrown on the ground and arrested in front of everyone. I was so afraid of that happening to me. In this town they also publish the names of everyone who was arrested the night before in the daily paper.

CrizzyBill

90 points

8 days ago

Yeah this bar has been in trouble before, and their reviews explicitly point out that underage drinking is common. There is no way local law enforcement or even the university are surprised that a teen got drunk there.

For whatever reason they let it slide, it seems the lax attitude strongly contributed to this tragedy.

I've been in strict college towns and loose college towns, and I've always appreciated the ones where the bars are regularly tested .

CrizzyBill

397 points

8 days ago

CrizzyBill

397 points

8 days ago

What a sad story. Seems the bar has a troubled history with underage drinking and more, which happens in college towns. But 17? I'd imagine this incident finally closes their doors.

Madison Brooks, a 19-year-old sophomore at LSU's Manship School of Mass Communication from Madisonville, had been drinking at Reggie’s, a Tigerland bar, where she met the 17-year-old, and left with him and the three other suspects, deputies said.

goodtroll

91 points

7 days ago

goodtroll

91 points

7 days ago

I believe Reggie's has been operating since before I started LSU in the mid 2000s. As far back as when I was there, that entire area (there's like 6 bars over there, some apartments and a bomb burger joint that used to sell fake bake) has been rough.

Living in some apartments in that area, I saw a dude get stabbed and another shot while I was on my porch. It's always been rough.

I guess all that is to say, that if all the shenanigans that have occurred over the past 2 decades hasn't been enough to close down Reggie's, I unfortunately don't believe this will. Cops there would much rather park at the red light at Nicholson and tigerland and give kids an inspection sticker ticket in the morning (after picking up their vehicles) than root out anything that is happening in that area.

waywithwords

89 points

8 days ago

Yea, Reggie's is gonna have some explaining to do.

germanmancat

668 points

8 days ago

.31 BAC is straight up coma level drunk, like surgical sedation type drunk. These people raped a person who had the potential to go into a coma and die. Absolutely unforgivable

BB4All

317 points

7 days ago

BB4All

317 points

7 days ago

Absolutely unforgivable

Agreed.

Also knowing that she was drunk they abandoned her on the side of a road, leading to her likely stepping in front of traffic - too drunk to be fully aware of her surroundings.

In my view they should also be charged w/involuntary manslaughter (I think it is) as their actions led to her death.

reno_chad

9.5k points

8 days ago

reno_chad

9.5k points

8 days ago

"This was not a crime."

My brother in Christ, it is a crime to rape a woman while she is unconscious in the back seat of a car.

agarret83

4.2k points

8 days ago

agarret83

4.2k points

8 days ago

How the fuck did a real life lawyer say this

No___ImRight

3.7k points

8 days ago

No___ImRight

3.7k points

8 days ago

He said it about his client...who sat in the front seat while she was being raped in the back seat, not the guy who did the rape itself.

Apparently saying he was uncomfortable with the rape absolves him /s

Print_it_Mick

2.3k points

8 days ago

How do you sit in the front of a car while a rape is happening in the back of the same car, and then claim your innocent

deformo

2k points

8 days ago

deformo

2k points

8 days ago

Step 1: be a coward

dubcatz6969

1.3k points

8 days ago

dubcatz6969

1.3k points

8 days ago

Step 2: make deplorable friends

Every3Years

771 points

8 days ago

Every3Years

771 points

8 days ago

What's weird is the front seat dudes were upper 20s and the back seat rapists were teens.

How are you 28 with an 18 year old friend? Smash bros tournament?

dubcatz6969

496 points

8 days ago

dubcatz6969

496 points

8 days ago

When you can’t make friends your own age, only the teenage rapists will hang out.

Magallan

132 points

7 days ago

Magallan

132 points

7 days ago

Was a dude like this in my hood who just kept hanging out with year after year of high school kids in his 20s

Was known as Peter Pan

Ospov

45 points

7 days ago

Ospov

45 points

7 days ago

I had some friends that young when I was in my late 20s. I went back to grad school, joined one of the sports clubs, and most of the other guys were 18-23. I generally hung out with the ones that were old enough to go to bars, but I still had my other group of friends from back home who were all my age. It’s not like I was a social outcast and they were the only ones who accepted me because I could buy them beer.

None of them ever raped anyone in my car though so maybe it’s not the exact same situation.

Zardif

10 points

7 days ago

Zardif

10 points

7 days ago

Yeah same, I was 26 when I went back to school to finish. I had friends who I hung out with that were 19/20 just because we were in school stuff together.

edarem

10 points

7 days ago

edarem

10 points

7 days ago

Two were 18, one was 17. The 28 year old was an uncle to one of the rapists.

NoTradeClause19

578 points

8 days ago

He's a criminal defense attorney with one responsibility, advocating for his client.

Does he actually believe this wasn't a crime? Who knows? But a statement made to the media will potentially be used in court. It would be more shocking if he said "My client is guilty as hell."

bihari_baller

484 points

8 days ago

He's a criminal defense attorney with one responsibility, advocating for his client.

SO many people on this thread don't understand this.

NoTradeClause19

209 points

8 days ago*

Yeah.

It's like when I watch a documentary and they say a defense attorney is attempting to "victim blame".

I mean, that's exactly what they are doing. They have a responsibility to their client. To minimize liability, they need to show that the plaintiff was partially responsible.

My guess is this girl's family will have a pretty significant wrongful death suit they can file against the bar that served her. Guess what? The attorney for the bar's insurance company will attempt to do the same thing.

It's part of the legal system works.

yzlautum

93 points

8 days ago

yzlautum

93 points

8 days ago

Real life lawyers have real life jobs. They also aren’t stupid and know when their client is guilty but ofc they don’t say that until they are 100% off the case. It takes a special type of person to do that job. My uncle (defense attorney) has told me crazy shit from his long career. I remember back when I was deciding to go to law school or not he asked me if I would ever be able to live with myself knowing I was responsible for getting a person acquitted for a horrible crime while knowing they 100% did it and they are now roaming the streets. Never became an attorney and I never wanted to do criminal work anyway but that always stuck with me. Hard job but someone has to do it because everyone has rights to representation in the US.

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866 points

8 days ago

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866 points

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Death2Milk

30 points

7 days ago

What the fuck did I just read… How utterly depressing.

That poor woman.

Helpful-Substance685

1.4k points

8 days ago*

What a complicated, horrible story. The bar needs to be investigated because why were there so many minors in there? I know there are fake id's but that's still a lot of minors getting drunk. They need a better checking system.

And all the guys in the car deserve whatever punishment they receive for allowing the rape to happen and then leaving her god knows where when she was completely out of it.

And the friends who left her are assholes too! There are just nothing but garbage people in every step of this situation.

Edit: I retract the statement about her friends. People can and do lose track of each other when alcohol and crowds are involved.

But fuck every other asshole who contributed to this woman's rape and death.

LegallyAFlamingo

328 points

8 days ago

That bar and others in the area have been shut down multiple times for underage drinking and other things. A quick internet search of Reggie's Baton Rouge will tell you all you need to know.

PantalonesPantalones

213 points

8 days ago

From their yelp page from 7 months ago:

Don't waste your time going because it's only for LSU students and they pretty much let in kids under 21 plus you'll see a lot of guys with shorts above their knees lol

LampardFanAlways

55 points

8 days ago

This I don’t get at all, whenever I read stuff like this in the news. Like a bar that gets shut down multiple times. Or when a robber gets arrested multiple times. Like how many offenses are enough to say that there’s going to be no more chances given to you?

I know big corporations get away with stuff by paying fines multiple times, but I assume they have the clout and the money to get away with that. How do regular common folk get away with multiple offenses?

V_T_H

494 points

8 days ago

V_T_H

494 points

8 days ago

Yea, like obviously the main story here is this woman’s rape and death. But that bar better be fucked, too. Letting a 19 year old get a BAC over 0.30! They played a part.

No___ImRight

336 points

8 days ago

a 19 year old and 17 year old were drinking at the bar....they better lose their liquor license at the very least.

andres7832

93 points

8 days ago

Hopefully face criminal charges as well. That is bullshit.

jpgray

69 points

8 days ago*

jpgray

69 points

8 days ago*

Letting a 19 year old get a BAC over 0.30

Assuming a weight of 130lbs that's 10 drinks in under 2 hours. Serving ANYONE that much alcohol insanely reckless

tttruckit

60 points

8 days ago

tttruckit

60 points

8 days ago

Reggie's is notoriously a shitty college bar. This doesn't surprise me in the least.

Babybutt123

69 points

8 days ago

Her friends may have also been 19 yr old girls who got way too drunk & lost their friends.

I doubt her friends intentionally plied her with alcohol, pushed her out the door with 4 men, and abandoned her.

lkattan3

326 points

8 days ago

lkattan3

326 points

8 days ago

I hope they charge the bar that served her to a .319 BAC. That’s criminal in and of itself.

AestheticPurrfection

53 points

7 days ago

It's been closed and investigated once before for the same thing, and they were allowed to reopen . They've just been closed for another investigation after this incident

we_invented_post-its

116 points

7 days ago

Especially considering she wasn’t even old enough to be there in the first place.

Mysterious_Pen8650

26 points

7 days ago

The bar she was drinking at had their liquor license revoked but I hope they get sued for criminal negligence because their actions had a direct result on her death.

fakeknees

9 points

7 days ago

Reggie’s and the entire Tigerland area has been serving underaged kids for decades. I wonder if this will actually make something stick. Sadly the owner also owns other bars, so it won’t make a huge difference.

brutalistsnowflake

24 points

7 days ago

Tragedy but not a crime? No, a tragedy is when a tornado takes out your house, rape is a crime.

madrasdad

24 points

7 days ago

madrasdad

24 points

7 days ago

So they gang raped her and she was later hit by a car and killed . As the father of a teen daughter I hope for nothing but the absolute worst for these monstrosities. If she had been my daughter I know how this would end.

chufenschmirtz

162 points

7 days ago

According to this article:, NAACP is working with prominent Baton Rouge attorneys who are representing two suspects, claiming there is video evidence refuting any allegations that Brooks was raped.

Brooks' blood-alcohol level was .319% at the time which is nearly four times the legal driving limit, according to the arrest documents.

And the attorney representing them is going to use a rape video uploaded to the cloud as existence she consented. Trash.

hermitsociety

56 points

7 days ago

I feel bad for her parents watching that video.

gbejrlsu

135 points

7 days ago

gbejrlsu

135 points

7 days ago

The problem is that even is she was constantly looking into the camera and saying "I consent to sexual intercourse with these men", her absurdly high BAC render that "consent" null and void. At that high a BAC she's not legally able to consent and no video will be able to change that.

KilroyLeges

102 points

8 days ago

KilroyLeges

102 points

8 days ago

So the victim was 19 and had a BAC of .319. 3 of the 4 rapists were also under 21 and inebriated. The drinking took place at a local bar.

Perhaps there should be a serious investigation into why the bar is serving so many underage people, and how they let a girl get to that high of a BAC without cutting her off. I saw the LSU statement about having a discussion with the local bars because the attackers were drunk underage. I'm not victim shaming, but if she had not been allowed to drink, especially that much, this probably wouldn't be a news story. That bar has criminal and civil liability in this as well.

Username_of_Peace

148 points

7 days ago

People all over the world drink at 18. These fucking punks are rapist and found an opportunity. If they had all been 21 the exact same thing would likely have happened. These boys are pieces of shit.

Wit-wat-4

11 points

7 days ago

Wit-wat-4

11 points

7 days ago

While I agree with the age part, there’s a couple things, from my European POV:

  1. When the whole culture has normalized and legal drinking at 18, kids are less likely to have their first stupid experience at 19, it’s more likely at 17-18 at most where you’d do THIS stupid drinking hopefully. By 19 you’ve been drinking socially for a while, it’s a lot harder to accidentally get comatose-drunk

  2. All European bars I’ve been to have been a million times stricter than Louisiana ones I’ve been to about who they serve. I’ve seen 40+ year olds get cut off when they were just swaying not bothering anyone but too drunk for bartender’s liking.

Also of course these boys are pieces of shit beyond measure I def agree with you

Mr_Bubblemer

17 points

7 days ago

Remember people, if you go out drinking with friends STICK TOGETHER.

LLPF2

19 points

7 days ago

LLPF2

19 points

7 days ago

"This was tragedy, but not a crime," Long said. WTF is he talking about? She was R A P E D.

Muskelmaus

18 points

7 days ago

LSU President William Tate described it partly as a result of local businesses being able to serve alcohol to minors without repercussions — a stance some criticized as distracting from the bigger issue of sexual violence.

Because that's exactly what it is.

Man, America's so fucked. Most people here are screeching about the bar serving an adult alcohol — legal in pretty much the rest of the world — or alternatively on the driver for hitting her, while accepting that getting gang raped when drunk is just a totally normal occurrence. Are you people out of your mind?!

faste30

155 points

8 days ago

faste30

155 points

8 days ago

These guys need to go down for her death too. They knew she was incapacitated and in danger, took advantage of her, and then just ditched her knowing this could happen.

Manslaughter or something. All of them. F that "I didn't want to do it" bs either. I was able to stop a drunk rape in high school when outnumbered very easily by making a stink and shaming.

[deleted]

625 points

8 days ago

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625 points

8 days ago

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heyman-

110 points

8 days ago

heyman-

110 points

8 days ago

I would expect some pretty stiff sentencing here when it's all said and done as a total armchair reddit commentor.

No_Creme7203

41 points

8 days ago

What's the drinking age there? They serve teenagers??

Ckss

13 points

7 days ago

Ckss

13 points

7 days ago

They raped her and kicked her out in a random subdivision. WTF?!!!!! Please do not let these men back into our society.

DJBoost

13 points

7 days ago

DJBoost

13 points

7 days ago

I go to this school, this whole thing has really sent an icy, sick chill across campus in a way I haven't seen before.

Being a big SEC party school and all, we have our fair share of shameful shit that happens on and off campus, but this is way beyond the pale. The reason it happened is because all the shitty college bars in the area are packed into one area of town, which also happens to be an area that was rough as fuck even before they all set up shop there, it's called Tigerland. Anything goes there, it's mind-boggling. Underage drinking is the least of the shit I've heard about. Plus, because we're a major football school, we have more than our fair share of creepy meatheads who have no business stinking up higher education for everyone else and only want to rep a big team and get wasted. The local cops are incompetent and spend most of their time chasing unarmed black people, though, so it goes on unrestricted.

I hope her family gets to see some justice handed down to the perpetrators and that the school works with the local government to sort shit out with regards to Tigerland. College towns can have party districts, but they should never get this bad.

-RYknow

12 points

7 days ago

-RYknow

12 points

7 days ago

Jesus christ... I didn't realise she was raped... Then hit and killed by a car, about an hour later. That poor kid.

The father of three girls... One who's 19. I can't even begin to imagine my state of mind after getting this news. Thoughts with the family. RIP.

Bug-Secure

10 points

7 days ago

Oh I’m sure all those shitheads were buying her drinks. And it is a crime not just a “tragedy”, assholes.

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63 points

7 days ago

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63 points

7 days ago

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42 points

7 days ago

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42 points

7 days ago

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The_Endless_

16 points

7 days ago

Yeah same, vasectomy taken care of in early December so I'm fully child-free

rabb1thole

76 points

7 days ago

Females are in a warzone from birth. Pedophiles / rapists, domestic violence, misogynist / incel attacks. The list goes on. Literally a fucking war zone. It's got to stop.

SovietSunrise

78 points

7 days ago

“Carver said he felt uncomfortable with the sex happening in his back seats and "hated it” and told them to “stop it”.

Rape. The RAPE happening in his back seats.

I_upvote_downvotes

41 points

7 days ago

"This was tragedy, but not a crime," Long said. "When all the evidence is known, everyone will see this was not a crime," Long said.

I get that you're a defense attorney and you have to say what you have to, but also: Fuck you.

gratefulandcontent

54 points

8 days ago

Not sure how the lawyer will twist it but for me it’s a crime. Not sure who was the driver the 18 or 28 year old but, the driver could have driven her to a hospital or a police station, especially if she was too intoxicated to say where she lived.
He may not have been able to control his “friends” but he controlled his car. If he wasn’t driving he could have gotten out.

So the fact he was uncomfortable but had just as much opportunity to help her or leave doesn’t absolve him from the crime.
While the victim didn’t have the capacity to say no, he did. He allowed the SA to happen and didn’t stop it.
The choice to pull over and then to abandon her were factors. Who ever the driver was also could have kicked his other rapist friend out instead or driven them to the police station.

Even after the rape they could have dropped her off someplace safe.
All 4 are complicit to me anyways. They all had choices, they all had their wits about them, she did not.

pgabrielfreak

10 points

7 days ago

Friends, never lose track of each other when out partying. This is why. You gotta protect each other.

DJTRENDSETTA

8 points

7 days ago

Parents need to raise their kids with more respect these boys especially the grown man have no excuse for their behavior I hope they all are given hefty jail sentences to send a message to all men who choose to violate and disrespect women in any way! They are responsible for her death no matter how you swing it they knew she was too drunk to take care of herself and because they raped her they panicked and thought the best thing to do was leave her on the side of the road shame on you animals how do you look at yourselves in the mirror!