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They released the report: https://hindenburgresearch.com/adani/
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Won’t even make the scrolling news ticker at the bottom of the tv screen 🥱
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That's called a chyron. I always thought it was a neat word so I wanted to share.
Edit: it looks like Chyron is the brand name of the graphic. And the thing at the very bottom is the ticker. Here is a graphic I found explaining it.
A chyron is a computer that ads lower thirds, titles, and animated graphics over the top of live video, so generally people will refer to any of these kinds of titles as a chyron. It is named after the company that developed this software.
The news ticker on the bottom of the screen is technically a chyron for that reason, but it’s specifically referred to as a ticker or a crawl. (Source: I work in film and tv and went to school for it)
I have a decade of broadcasting experience and used to work on a chyron computer therefore can confirm this statement.
i helped build the system and software that introduced the chyron, and can confirm this statement
I invented television and I can’t find my pants.
I am on the internet and can confirm that the whereabouts of this user’s pants are unknown.
Is that like Chai-Ron or kai-Ron for pronunciation
Like "Hi Ron" with a "K"
Who the fuck spells Ron with a K?
That'll be so ronk.
Chyron Graphics is also a popular tool used in the industry for you guessed it, doing the chyron graphics.
The definition for that word seems far more generic. I think the ticker is an example of a chyron, but probably has a more specific name (like ticker).
Yeah you seem to be right based on this graphic (https://www.google.com/search?q=chyron&client=firefox-b-1-m&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiz17mz-eH8AhVOMEQIHSNjCpQQ_AUIBigB&biw=414&bih=794#imgrc=hNew2RglBbkokM)
Oh well, now I learned there is a difference between the ticker and chyron.
Do they have a symbol in the US market?
A summoner of shenanigans indeed…
Pretty sure its privately traded, which implies other corporate entities were accomplices by selling to them and buying it back.
They have public companies and apparently they share the financial records of private companies or something. It was mentioned in that paper.
Of the 7 key listed companies one saw a 2000%+ increase in value over three years. Imagine investing in that.
$INDA has 5% exposure to Adani companies
It's 1.4%, not 5%: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnS0lWRX0AAq9uU
Wait WTF? Adani has a PE of over 300 and has a market cap of almost $4T? How have I never heard of them before lol
We've heard of them Australia. They have or tried to take over mines here. They don't have a very good environmental track record so there was a bit of a thing going on over it..
They changed their name in Australia a few months (years?) back after the 2019 election, they call themselves Bravus Mining and Resources now.
But it is perfectly acceptable to deadname a corporation so Adani they remain
There were lots of protests in Australia and India iirc when he was bidding for those mines. Eventually he took over them. The word here was that he paid expensive gifts to the members in the government then. Smh
The LNP was giving them billions when even private banks wouldn’t loan them anything
They now go under the name of Bravus mining in Australia due to all the backlash they received.
4T Indian Rupees is only 46 billion USD
Apple doesn’t show currencies. Seems like an oversight if they’re going to randomly mix in some Zelda bullshit.
Seems like an oversight
Seems like an oversight
Or a perfect time to open a Venezuelan corporation, fool some chumps, and fake it till we make it.
Ah yes, "fake it till you make it", the wallstreetbets definition of securities fraud.
Too big to fail speedrun Any%
Plot twist: Hindenburg built their report thinking it’s a $4T company and were like let’s short this bitch… somebody should tell them.
The article says it converts to $218 Billion.
Not exactly. The article says it's INR 17.8 trillion (not "just" 4 trillion), which converts to $218 billion.
Oh! Thanks for the catch.
I am a regard from India and I can tell you this. Everyone knows Adani is manipulating and people will still invest in the company's stock. Because he has the support of the Prime Minister of India and they will keep Adani up as long as it becomes a legitimate high value business. The government has been selling a good chunk of assets to Adani Group at low valuations. They already own and operate majority of airports and ports in India.
They are currently doing an FPO (secondary IPO) of about INR 200 billion (USD 2.4 Billion) which has been oversubscribed.
The Group has planned to prop up more businesses and do an IPO for atleast 3-4 businesses in the next 4-5 years.
Adani is not going down unless the political party in power goes down. The political party currently in power in not going down atleast for the next 5 years. So yeah, they will be able to legitimise their business by then
Bit like the "don't fight the fed" mentality in the US.
It doesn't matter what the fundamentals are, if the fed is printing you best be buying.
OP made me buy calls
Everyone in India know it as a Ponzi scheme.
It's not a Ponzi scheme.
A Ponzi has no basis. Adani has its basis in government privilege. It's genuine "fundamentals", however corrupt and wrong that fundamental factor is, but a fundamental nonethelees.
Yeah people need to realize fraud =/ ponzie scheme. A ponzi scheme is a very specific kind of fraud
Adani has the rights to o e of the new biggest coal mines in Australia
Well he's the ruling party's biggest benefactor, and the govt has been pouring tax payer money as well as retirement funds into his Ponzi scheme. People will be dying when this balloon pops
Puts on latex?
When does he get arrested?
Rich people never pay for crimes unless it directly hurts rich people.
Shorting everything just to be on the safe side.
Still holding my GameStop tho
Microsoft has in fact never sold an actual window…
“Wall” Mart is next
I don't see Apple selling apples either.
Honestly staples is looking good RN
Dick’s has been letting me down for years!
Edit: Thank you for the award!
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I was pretty pissed off when I walked into Olive Garden and there were no Olive Gardens in sight
Blackberry doesn’t have fruit of any sort, let alone berries, and previously their research was not in fact in motion at all, but was entirely static.
Can you imagine my disappointment when I first walked into a BJ's!
I was so confused when I ordered a pizookie.
Wait until you hear that Applebee's doesn't sell apples OR bees.
My dad took me to Applebee's like 25 years ago and asked for apple pie. They said they didn't have any. He sighed and said, ok I'll take the bee pie 😞
They sell curtains
I thought it was blue screens?
One could also accuse Apple of never selling fruits.
I don’t know, they’ve certainly sold a few lemons.
How the hell are they sill around??
Los Pollos Hermanos
They made a legitimate product that people loved. I don't see why the brand had to die with it's nefarious owner.
I’m actually surprised it didn’t become a real chicken chain.
Me too. People would show up for the reference, and if it turned out to be a good product, they'd continue coming by.
There's a legit Los Pollos Hermanos near where I live. It was a little hole in the wall place before BB but still reaaaalllyyy good. It's blown up and has an awesome storefront and a lot more dining space now but it's still the same great food.
I don't know the owner but a friend that does says BB was the best thing to ever happen to them and the owner doesn't even care that he can't franchise because they're doing way better than they had ever dreamed
Do they sell meth?
So they do laundry?!
the owner doesn't even care that he can't franchise
the owner doesn't even care that he can't franchise
That doesn't sound right. If they had the name first and were actively using it appropriately, then BB is actually infringing on their rights and not the opposite.
I always assumed it was a fictionalized "El Pollo Loco" which is a Mexican origin chain that is popular in the US Southwest. https://www.elpolloloco.com/
Guessing very difficult to navigate around licensing. Who gets what? Production company’s going to want a big cut, and it’s not hard to come up with another brand name.
I guess it boils down to just how much Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul name recognition could add to their bottom line. The pollo chain would think less and the production company would think more.
Do you have… boneitis?
Ahh my one regret.
Gus actually seemed like a really good employer to the kids who worked there.
I believe the grill would be clean.
The problem with Gus is that in the end, you can't be sure if he won't mercilessly kill them if needed. Say, imagine one of them saw something they shouldn't have.
No, you can be sure he would have. Maintaining the cover image of being a benevolent business owner was worth putting the effort in to be genuinely good at it, but he would not have risked exposing himself by allowing there to be a loose end. Any employee of his who learned the truth would have died unless he had some other means to guarantee their silence.
My thought was he runs it at a loss to get demand up so he can move more product.
Oh Adani Group?
Ohhh, the one with the CEO who went from a $5bn net worth to like $140bn in like 2 years...they're really saying that that guys is a fraud?
Damn, it's always the people you least expect
Reddit always not surprised in hindsight
Holy shit that's a lot of bullet points
I read through like 15 of the bullets and then gave up. lol
Way to complicated trying to figure out how to short in some foreign stock exchange, I’m out.
There are US/ASX listed entities with large exposure to Adani corps
Me reading that page: "don't billionaires all do that?"
Yup, it was just announced that they took out a short position
Not just. They take short positions first then release the report. No action gets taken by authorities. Hindenburg makes money on news.
They just post their DD. If people trust them enough it moves the stock, not their fault they do high quality research that negatively effects the stock. The fault lies at the company
And it's mentioned just based on financial stats alone, without the report, the companies are at least 85%+ overvalued.
So it's not like this is actually ground breaking information but it's insane how vast their web of deceit is
What's the legality of this stuff? If you short a stock, can you decimate it if what you say is factual?
posts on r/investing
As long as it the info you gathered is public knowledge, yes you can if it's insider info, then it's a big no no
But if you public the info it's no longer only insiders, checkmate atheists
Yes.else every DD post on Reddit is illegal
Shorter than shit on Adani group. As soon as I figure out what it is and how to do that.
Yup it is Adani
This is not news.The Adani stock manipulation is a common knowledge. I made shit ton of money last year being on the right side of adani pump.
Whoever shorts adani will lose money because adani has cash to pump back his stocks up.
He needs stocks to be high so that he can borrow crazy amount of money to finance his coal mines and other infra projects.
And he uses some of the borrowed money to pump his stocks.
Apparently there is an investigation going on according to the Hindenburg report, thought it apparently started a year and a half after the claims were first made so I don't know if anyone should expect progress.
nothing will ever come of the report as Indian Government and agencies investigating them are currently controlled by Adani's themselves.
The agency is on Adani's payroll. He runs the government.
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My guess is no matter what it is, it will change nothing, lead to no arrests, and whoever did it or knew about it will be wealthier this time next year.
The whistleblower(s) will definitely get arrested or die mysteriously.
Die mysteriously? Please enlighten me on what is mysterious about putting a sackcloth bag over your head, shooting yourself 48 times in the back of the head and falling face first into your pool??
That is a very common occurrence.
You joke but my great grandfather was shot three times, once just below the heart, and twice in the head and it was ruled a suicide by the Cook County coroner.
One of the articles from the time, which was 1930:
Ah, yes. The home of the curious autopsy result.
The Hardy Boys and the Case of the Curious Coroner
"Cook County coroner" - that definitely tracks.
And the year was 1930. A single action revolver was found near his body. Twice through the head and once in the heart.
He was a prominent member of the Chicago Board of Trade.
I’m assuming it was mafia related?
Who gets so upset about the Mafia that they kill themselves?
That time that place... Had to be.
Hey do you mind giving us his name? or DMing me? I wanna see if i can find him in the Library of Congress newspaper archives.
There were plenty of blurbs about it at the time. This is one I have:
Say that 5 times fast
As common as jail cameras turned off and committing suicide
Yep. I just did that yesterday.
Me too, but I got better.
The holes in the back of my head made me sink to the bottom quicker…
On another note, I’m a great swimmer!
What do you mean die mysteriously? It's perfectly logical that whilst tragically tripping and falling out of a hospital window they also misfired their concealed carry weapon, which due to them tumbling through the air managed to hit them in the back twice before they broke their fall feet first in wet concrete and losing balance to unfortunately fall off the pier into the sea.
Landing directly on a syringe full of fentanyl.
Idk the Nikola report did lead to Trevor Milton leaving the company and he’s not even a billionaire any more. Probably a measly hundred millionaire.
How big of a loser do you have to be to be arrested as a billionaire? Epic fucking loser.
If you are a billionaire, and your crimes were against poor people, nothing happens to you. If you ripped off other rich people, then you may possibly be used as a token example.
If Bernie Madoff only ripped off poor people his penalty would've just been a fine, and maybe some community service.
Haha stupid poor
Yea, whoever is guilty will probably be shorting their own company before any of us can
this rtf here
There’s probably a lot of people shorting their own companies thinking it’s their fraud that will be exposed
Saw a video where a woman said she walked into a crowded restaurant and pulled out her cell phone and said “girl you’re not gonna believe it, your man is here with another girl” and five dudes got up and left.
My guess is that the folks at Hindenburg will be loaded up on puts and cash in no matter whether or not their research has any merit as well
Trevor Milton is going to jail
With a name like Hindenburg Research the expectations are high...
They always do this
They load up on puts and drop a hit piece on a company, a lot of the time it's lowkey a nothingburger but they still cash in because of the immediate stock reaction
And yes, sometimes they expose something legit... But this tweet means nothing other than "we want the market to respond strongly when we drop our report before anyone even reads it"
Their short report on Nikola was legendary. Clover pretty solid too. DraftKings, not so much.
Someone needs to expose them… and short them, UNO REVERSO
They’ve loaded up on puts of themselves, which is the largest fraud in corporate history, and once they expose it, they’ll all become rich.
Wow, fraudception. We really have the meta down to a science don't we.
So you're saying buy the dip
Read the report(s). Despite OP's blanket statement, they've uncovered some pretty atrocious corporate ploys.
Full of hydrogen and ready to party!
Oh the humanity!!!
United health care
They've bought enough lawmakers to legalize all of their shady practices.
I actually worked for them in the past , I agree their model for Medicare advantage plans, really don’t add value to people and if the patient dies before the end of the year they get to keep all the money . Left as soon as I got a gov job
Medicare advantage plans are a large part of the insurance industry’s fraud and I think almost 45% of Medicare eligible people are enrolled. They are like triple dipping on the American tax payer at this point
This or the US Govt
Pltr. May as well bring my shares right to 0
Not big enough
They don’t have enough history
At least not enough to be considered the biggest fraud anyways..
<Laughs in wild-haired Karp>
Is it the Krusty Krab?
No this is Patrick
“Today we reveal the findings of our 2-year investigation, presenting evidence that the INR 17.8 trillion (U.S. $218 billion) Indian conglomerate Adani Group has engaged in a brazen stock manipulation and accounting fraud scheme over the course of decades.”
Cramer put his hex on Blackrock the other day so that's my guess.:12787:
The thread is up. It's Adani Group. https://twitter.com/HindenburgRes/status/1618077612680818688
Everyone knows Tether is fraudulent tho
And people seem to be okay with it 🤷♂️
Trojan. They keep making the magnums bigger they don’t fit anymore. Nothing to do with my penis shrinking at all
The obvious choice, this is what I was going to suggest. Good luck! Not sure what the winner receives
Winner gets 100,000 DOGE
Hey doge is a whole 8 cents. That's 8000. I'll gladly take that.
These guys are short sellers. No point going after FTX.
When you have to hype a big announcement, it’s usually not that big.
Dr pepper in fact failed out of med school
It's about Adani Group. Difficult to short for non-india residents.
You guys just made Elon's butt pucker.
Pretty sure every fortune 500 CEO is clinching their butts seeing this tweet.
only the ones guilty of massive fraud